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==GA Review==
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'''Reviewer:''' [[User:ProKro|ProKro]] ([[User talk:ProKro|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/ProKro|contribs]]) 12:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

===1. Infobox===
{{Check mark}} All good.

===2. Lede===
'''Prose'''
*''{{xtn|...and published by Sony for the PlayStation.}}'' – [[Sony Computer Entertainment]] instead of Sony. (Per the infobox)
:*Thanks, corrected [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...second instalment in the MediEvil series and is the sequel to the 1998 game, MediEvil.}}'' – "...second instalment in the ''MediEvil'' series and a sequel to ''[[MediEvil]]''." (The release year of the previous title really isn't neccessary and needlessly breaks the flow.)
:*I agree, changed! [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...after the events of the first game, the game follows series protagonist}}'' – "...after the events of the first game, it follows series' protagonist" (Possessive; "series's" also works; use personal preference)
:*Changed to "series'" [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|rivival}}'' – revival
:*Oops, corrected [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|Victorian-era|}}'' – Victorian era
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|attempts stop sorcerer}}'' – "attempts to stop sorcerer"
:*That's embarrassing, done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|Development began after the success of the first game...}}'' – This is somewhat ambiguous as the definition of "success" is vague and success is usually considered timeless; I'd suggested changing it to something like "Development began shortly after the release of the previous title,..." or "Following the positive reception of the first game, Sony..." (Director himself says so in the 4. reference)
:*I've changed it so it sounds like the former [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|Sony commissioned SCE Cambridge Studio}}'' – "Sony Computer Entertainment commissioned SCE Cambridge Studio" (These are petty, I know, but are agreed [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|MoS]])
:*I would prefer the shortened "Sony" in cases like these so it doesn't clutter things up, but I changed it anyway [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|The original concepts of MediEvil 2...}}'' – "The original concept for MediEvil 2..." ("Concept of" implies that it already existed at the time (e.g. concept of gravity), whereas "concept for" suggests a future plan or idea)
:*Thanks, I think they had a sequel in mind when they finished the first game but it depended on whether or not it was successful. Anyway, I changed it to "concept for" [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

'''Style'''
*''{{xtn|The game received mostly positive reviews from critics...}}'' – Should be a separate paragraph.
:*The reception part of the lead is short and I can't really expand it without repeating or crossing over to [[WP:JARGON]], do you think it would be best to keep the lead to two paragraphs, like its predecessor? [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

===3. Gameplay section===
'''Prose'''
*''{{xtn|The interface and gameplay style did not differ much from the previous title.}}'' – "The interface and gameplay style do not differ much from the previous title." (Tense)
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:46, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|MediEvil 2 sees players once again in control of Sir Daniel Fortesque...}}'' – "In MediEvil 2, player once again takes control of Sir Daniel Fortesque." (On most video game articles "player" is used instead of "players" in single-player titles' articles)
:*I changed to "the player", but I hope this doesn't sound too unencyclopaedic [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:46, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|close-combat / longer-range}}'' – "Close-combat"? I'd suggest using "close range" / "longer-range" -> "long-range" unless you mean to compare the two in which case it should then read "close range x and longer-ranged y".
:*Changed to "close range" [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:46, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...forms of weaponry such as close-combat swords and clubs to longer-range crossbows or catapults.}}'' – Two ways to go with this. 1. "...forms of weaponry, {{strikethrough|such as}} from close range swords and clubs to long-range crossbows or catapults." or 2. "...forms of weaponry such as close range swords or clubs and long-range crossbows or catapults." (Basically, if there is "to" there has to be "from" to form a "from A to Z" span)
:*I changed to the first one, thanks [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:46, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|MediEvil 2 contains...}}'' – It contains... (No need to repeat the name; it is clear to what the pronoun is referring.)
:*Changed to "the game" [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:46, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|Dan is also able to tear off his skeletal arm and use it as a club to fight off enemies during the early levels.}}'' – Is this a new feature? If so, I'd suggest noting that; something like "Dan is also able to tear off his skeletal arm and use it as a club to fight off enemies during the early levels, a skill absent in the previous title." will do.
:*It was present in the first game, so I re-worded it to acknowledge that it was carried over from the first game [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...new weapons featured in MediEvil 2 consist of pistols, shotguns and a Gatling guns.}}'' – "...new weapons featured in MediEvil 2 include pistols, shotguns and {{strikethrough|a}} Gatling guns." will work. (This implies a list. Unless, of course, these weapons are actually made up of pistols, Gatling guns and other to form some kind of Franken-weapons unique to the game.)
:*Thanks, changed [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...Winston to teach him new moves or to save the player's game between long levels.}}'' – "...Winston to learn new moves or to save the player's progress between (longer?) levels." (Does Dan teach Winston, or does Winston teach Dan? If the latter is the case, use "learn". Also, "''between longer levels''"; is saving unavailable in/after/during implied shorter levels? If not, I'd suggest removing "longer" completely.)
:*Winston teaches Dan, so I put in "learn" and "longer" as saving can be enabled during longer levels, but only with Winston [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|It will deplete completely if Dan drowns or falls from a great height}}'' – "It also depletes completely if he drowns or falls from a great height." (Tense)
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...will restart from the last known save point.}}'' – "...restarts from the last known save point." (Tense; same as the last one)
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...Life Bottles, which will automatically refill...}}'' – "...Life Bottles, which automatically refill..."
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  13:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

===4. Plot section===
'''Prose'''
*''{{xtn|demon-like}}'' – "demonlike" is more common.
:*I thought the use of hyphen is more common? It also adheres to [[WP:ENGVAR]] but I can change it if you really want? [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...named Kiya, who later becomes Dan's love interest.}}'' – ...named Kiya; Dan's future love interest. (Certain future instead of descriptive adjective clause)
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|shock of Dan}}'' – "Dan's shock" (Optional, both are fine; possessive form is more usual nowadays though)
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|Discovering a time machine...}}'' – Better use "Having discovered a time machine..." or "After discovering a time machine..." (Dangling participle)
:*Changed [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...pages from him and uses it}}'' – it -> them (plural)
:*Thanks, done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|However, Dan manages to turn the demon...}}'' – "However" is unnecessary unless that sentence is supposed to contradict another which it currently doesn't. "Dan manages to turn the demon..." will work.
:*You're right, I have removed "however" [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|on his dying breath}}'' – with his last/dying breath (Expression)
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|together}}'' – unnecessary in this case (Pleonasm)
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|If the player has collected all the Chalices, Dan and Kiya will instead go for a ride on the time machine, which takes them back to the time of the first MediEvil.}}'' – "If the player has collected all the Chalices, Dan and Kiya go for a ride on the time machine which takes them back to the time of the first [[MediEvil]] instead." (No comma before which; restrictive clause)
:*Changed [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:04, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

===5. Development section===
'''Prose'''
*''{{xtn|Sony}}'' – same thing as before, Sony Computer Entertainment.
:*Changed, and also fixed a typo [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...in development and instead the process was handed over to James Shepherd.}}'' – "...in development so, instead, the project was handed over to James Shepherd." or ""...in development so the project was handed over to James Shepherd instead."
:*Changed to the latter [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|kept prisoner}}'' – "held prisoner" is more common.
:* Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|Sir Daniel Fortesque had to free him...}}'' – "Sir Daniel Fortesque would have to free him...", "Sir Daniel Fortesque's objective would be to free him..." or "and have Sir Daniel Fortesque free him..." (Tense)
:*I loved the second one, so I changed it to that [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|Shepherd settled MediEvil 2...}}'' – "Shepherd settled on MediEvil 2..."
:*Oops, done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']] 
*''{{xtn|Victorian Era}}'' – Victorian era
:*I thought I did something wrong there [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|SCE Camrbdige}}'' – SCE Camebridge; or "Cambridge studio" as used previously in the text. (Typo)
:*Oops. Changed to "the Cambridge studio" [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|Various cut features from...}}'' – "Various features cut from..."
:*Done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|...and cut levels that featured puzzles.}}'' – "cut" is redundant here as it is implied that these levels are some of the cut features.
:*You're right, done [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|beta status}}'' – "beta status" is vague, especially to someone who isn't familiar with video game lingo. I'd suggest linking it to [[software release life cycle#Stages_of_development|software release life cycle part about beta]]
:*Link changed [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
*''{{xtn|artificial intelligence logic}}'' – Just "artificial intelligence". However, if it's referring to computer-controlled characters and their use of game-specific logic, specific to the game, use "[[Non-player character|NPC]] logic".
:*I chose NPC logic! [[User:Jaguar|'''JAG''']][[User talk:Jaguar|'''UAR''']]  14:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

===6. Reception section===
'''Prose'''
*''{{xtn|graphics rich detail}}'' – I believe this was meant to read "detailed graphics" or "rich, detailed graphics".
*''{{xtn|new additions of cutscenes}}'' – "new addition of cutscenes" (Single addition as a whole)
*''{{xtn|GameRevolution}}'' – Should be "Game Revolution".
*''{{xtn|framrate}}'' – [[frame rate]] (Also a link would be useful)
*''{{xtn|Sparks noted similar concerns with confusing level layouts and despite hailing them "a joy to explore".}}'' – Use "Sparks also noted similar concerns with confusing level layout."; the second part of the sentence is unnecessary as it is already used in the previous paragraph.
*''{{xtn|Stephen Frost of Daily Radar}}'' – ''[[Daily Radar]]'' should be italicized and linked; also you might want to change it to "''Daily Radar'''s Stephen Frost"; article's established style used with other mentioned reviewers.

===7. References, images, external links and categories===
*'''External links'''
{{check mark}} All good.

*'''Images'''
{{check mark}} Rationale(s) provided. 
{{check mark}} No copyright issues.

*'''Categories'''
{{check mark}} All good.

*'''References'''
{{check mark}} Inline citations 
{{qmark}} No dead links 
{{check mark}} No bare urls 
{{check mark}} Verifable 
{{qmark}} Reliable

====Comments====
*GameTrailers ref. (1.) isn't the footage of gameplay (at least not for me). Maybe a wrong link? I'd suggest using a written source instead of a video; IGN ref. (7.) seems to cover most of it. Simply swap them, it'll do fine.
*DailyRadar ref. is used to corroborate "''MediEvil 2 consist of pistols, shotguns and a Gatling guns.''" despite it not mentioning any of it; again IGN ref. does so - no biggie.
*({{qmark}}) Is "MediEvil Boards" (3.) a reliable source for this? Looks like a fan forum; but if it's "legit", I have no objection. If not, we'll need a different reference.
*In Development section, MediEvil Boards (3.) and GameSpot (4.) references are used to corroborate "''Chris Sorrell, who previously served as director of the first game, was not involved in development''" despite neither of them mentioning that. They only say James Shepherd is the director; so I'd remove that bit to keep it simple.

===8. Review===
'''[[Wikipedia:Good article nominations|GA]] review – see [[WP:WIAGA]] for criteria'''
#Is it '''reasonably well written'''?
#:A. Prose is "[[MOS:JARGON|clear]] and [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|concise]]", without [[Wikipedia:Copyright violations|copyvios]], or spelling and grammar errors: {{GAList/check|}}
#::
#:B. [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|MoS]] compliance for [[WP:LEAD|lead]], [[WP:LAYOUT|layout]], [[WP:WTW|words to watch]], [[WP:WAF|fiction]], and [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (embedded lists)|Manual of Style]]: {{GAList/check|}}
#::
#Is it '''factually accurate''' and '''[[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiable]]'''?
#:A. Has an [[Wikipedia:LAYOUT#Standard_appendices_and_footers|appropriate reference section]]: {{GAList/check|y}}
#::
#:B. Citation to reliable sources [[Wikipedia:Good article criteria/where necessary|where necessary]]: {{GAList/check|}}
#::
#:C. [[Wikipedia:No original research|No original research]]: {{GAList/check|y}}
#::
#Is it '''broad in its coverage'''?
#:A. [[Wikipedia:Out of scope|Major aspects]]: {{GAList/check|y}}
#::
#:B. [[WP:LENGTH|Focused]]: {{GAList/check|y}}
#::
#Is it '''[[WP:NPOV|neutral]]'''?
#:Fair representation without bias: {{GAList/check|y}}
#::
#Is it '''stable'''?
#: No [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit wars]], etc: {{GAList/check|y}}
#::
#Does it '''contain [[Wikipedia:Images|images]]''' to illustrate the topic?
#:A. Images are [[Wikipedia:Copyright tags|tagged]] with their [[Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ|copyright status]], and [[Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline|valid fair use rationales]] are provided for [[Wikipedia:Non-free content|non-free content]]: {{GAList/check|y}}
#::
#:B. Images are provided if possible and are [[WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE|relevant]] to the topic, and have [[WP:CAP|suitable captions]]: {{GAList/check|y}}
#::
#'''Overall''':
#:Pass or Fail: {{On hold}}
#::

===Additional comments===
Just a couple of suggestions, these are all optional:
*''Predecessor'', ''first game'', ''previous game'', ''previous instalment'' and ''previous title'' are all interchangeable so I'd suggest using one or two and sticking with them all through the article.
*Are there any verifiable sales figures you could throw in? They would make for a nice addition.
*There is only a handful of references so I'd suggest archiving the URLs to prevent [[link rot]].

'''Overall''': Article is concise and focused, albeit riddled with minor errors like typos and phrasing. Text is easy to read, it is interesting and engaging. References are few but mostly verifiable; only one is dubious at the moment.

In my opinion – this is an easy pass. Minor cleanup and rephrasing and the article's good-to-go. I'd also like to apologize in advance for any typos of my own as I typed this out pretty quickly. That's it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away. I'll be sure to give it a look asap. [[User:ProKro|ProKro]] ([[User talk:ProKro|talk]]) 12:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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